Please do not fuckin kiss and hug in Malaysia
'Mayor can enact morality laws'New Straits Times (Used by permission)
By V.Anbalagan
PUTRAJAYA: Is kissing and hugging in public disorderly behaviour?
Comments made by Chief Justice Tun Ahmad Fairuz Sheikh Abdul Halim in a landmark decision appear to suggest so.
He wondered whether acts of intimacy in public were consistent with Asian morality.
He made these remarks before the Federal Court ruled that local governments have the authority to enact by-laws to prosecute for "disorderly behaviour" in public.
The court unanimously held that the Datuk Bandar of Kuala Lumpur (DBKL) was correct to charge two students with behaving indecently by hugging and kissing at the Kuala Lumpur City Centre Park. The court ruled the section invoked by the Datuk Bandar to punish persons caught behaving indecently in public was constitutional.
As a result of the ruling, the case against Ooi Kean Thong, 24, and Siow Ai Wei, 22, will proceed on June 1. Both had pleaded not guilty to committing the offence at the park at 5.20pm on Aug 2, 2003.
If convicted, they are liable to a fine not exceeding RM2,000 or jailed up to a year, or both. Sitting with Ahmad Fairuz were Datuk Alauddin Sheriff and Datuk Richard Malanjum.
Ooi and Siew challenged the validity of Section 8(1) contending that the Local Government Act 1976 — which is the parent act governing local authorities — did not empower the Datuk Bandar to make local by-laws on matters of decency. They alleged that they were given a summons because they refused to pay a bribe to the enforcement officers.
In January last year, the two officers pleaded not guilty to corruption charges in the Sessions Court and their case is pending.
Deputy public prosecutor Manoj Kurup argued yesterday that local authorities could enact by-laws for the well-being of the public as long they came within the ambit of section 102 of the Local Government Act .
Counsel S. Selvam, who represented Ooi and Siow, submitted that the Act did not give the Datuk Bandar of Kuala Lumpur the power to enact by-laws on matters of "decency" or "morality" and to prosecute anyone for "indecent behaviour" like kissing and hugging in a public place.
The lawyer added that the Datuk Bandar had failed to take into consideration the fact that Malaysia was a multiracial country and that the act of hugging and kissing was an expression of love which should be encouraged.
Hearing this, Ahmad Fairuz asked: "So, they should be given freedom to live as they like? The constitution allows all citizens to do that (hugging and kissing) even by the roadside, in a public park? "
"In England, those acts are acceptable to the people in that country but is kissing and hugging acceptable to Malaysian citizens?
"Is the act according to the morality of Asian people?" he asked.
Selvam replied that there was nothing wrong with hugging and kissing because these were acts expressing love.
Issue: Was there any evidence that the council employees asked for a bribe from the duo?
Being a Malaysian, i strongly believe that they have and did ask the couple for money to let them off. It happens too often in Malaysia. u get away with alot of shit by bribing. Who's fault is it then? The officials? The people? I tink its both.. Sometimes there is a line whereby the people should not cross. same goes for the officials. This brings us to the second issue:
Should kissing and hugging be allowed in public?
The questions that i want to ask is:
1. Whether the couple were in school uniform when the act was committed?
2. Who was the person who caught them?
3. Is Malaysia really a country where you cannot kiss and hug and show affection ?
4. Who the fuck is Ahmad Fairuz?
IF, and only IF, the couple were in their school uniform. i can only say that it is fair that they're caught. BUT, the issue should be whether students in school uniform can show public affection and not "Is kissing and hugging in public disorderly behaviour ?".And school will be responsible for dealing with this issue and not the law.
As for the official who caught them displaying public affection, he must either be someone who is a religion extremist or someone who just wants from dirty money and somehow manage to get himself into a much bigger trouble (by denying that he was asking a bribe from the couple, tranforming it into a federal issue).
And for those of you who might have second thoughts about visiting Malaysia, fuck that. Malaysia is a country where everything is normal. That couple is definitely doing something more than kissing and hugging in public. Kissing AND Hugging (in terms of public affection) is fucking 100% legal in Malaysia! You will not get involved with the law by kissing and hugging.
Who the fuck is Ahmad Fairuz!? is he even fucking asian?! He must be some fucking religion terrorist that is tryin to impose a "no-kissing & huggin" law in Malaysia. I will bring ur attention to the specific line that pissed me off: "So, they should be given freedom to live as they like? The constitution allows all citizens to do that (hugging and kissing) even by the roadside, in a public park?"
First of all, NO ONE kisses and hugs by the roadside unless they wanna get killed. Even if they do, it's fucking legal. Second, loads of people display public affection in the public park! i mean... i can't help but say "waaaattt ttthhheee fffuuuuccckkkk are you saying dude?" Don't u tink he sound like some fucking childish cheebye when he said "so, they should be given freedom to live as they like?" i am so impulsive now i couldnt even control wat i wanna express towards his comment. The constitution will probably say "do not fuck in public" and not "No kissing or huggin".. Just who the fuck is he man? I dun even see this as a religion related problem, though i did mention that the official who caught them is a religion-extremist. But common sense will tell u why i added the extremist there - it cos they do things totally off from what the religion says. I bet he must be some suppressed fucker from young who see other parents displaying public affection to their kids and then he gets shit from his parents. Oh! which reminds me... maybe we should catch parents who kisses and hugs their kids in public? why dun they?
Bottomline: This is REALLY one isolated incident that unfortunately happened. Malaysia is a good country to live in. U can kiss and hug. but dun overboard to the point where it becomes an obscene (u know what i mean)..
posted by Mr. Wong @ 8:44 PM
1 Comments:
he happens to be
Chief Justice Tun Ahmad Fairuz Sheikh Abdul Halim (of malaysia)
bio:
Tun Ahmad Fairuz bin Dato' Sheikh Abdul Halim was born in Alor Setar, Kedah on 1 November 1941. He received his Bachelor of Laws from the University of Singapore and later obtained his Master of Laws in International and Comparative Laws from the University of Brussels, Belgium.
Joined the Malaysian Judicial and Legal Service on 4 April 1967 as a Cadet Legal Officer and held various positions such as President of Sessions Court, State Legal Advisor and Chairman of the Advisory Board, Prime Minister's Department. On 1 December 1988 he was appointed Judicial Commissioner of High Court Malaya and was later appointed a High Court Judge. On 1 December 1995 he was elevated as a Court of Appeal Judge until his appointment as a Federal Court Judge on 1 September 2000.
Married to Puan Sri Mazni bt Mohd Noor and they have two children.
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i think its the same guy. maybe u'll understand y he made those comments. take a look ---> http://www.malaysianbar.org.my/content/view/1470/198/
im mean. heh.
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